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CD86 - Some Thoughts & A Review

I must admit that when I first saw the tracklisting for CD86 (compiled by Saint Etienne's Bob Stanley) my head did drop some bit. On first glance it seemed that many of the tracks here have already seen appearances on other compilations such as the recent Rough Trade indie pop vol 1 and the Subway compilations on Cherry Red. It also seemed that the same old tracks were making yet another appearance and that dis-heartened me. Not because they aren't good (some here are classics) but the fact that I would have liked to have seen some rarer tracks get an outing on CD for the first time especially those rare flexi disc releases.

However stepping back away from the above this is a pretty good and indispensable introduction for all those who want to know what C86 was and what it was all about. After listening to it for the past few days I feel more is achieved by this compilation than if the original tape was re-released.

What was C86? It was originally a cassette given away by the NME in 1986 and collated many of the bands from the new burgeoning UK independent scene at the time. However as time went by it soon became clear to many that the NME were trying to invent (or even impose on it's readers) a scene which just wasn't there. The only thing most of the bands had in common were the fact they were on the tape in the first place! Many of the bands were influenced by sixties bands like The Byrd's, Velvet Underground and many of the girl groups. There were also influences from the likes of The Buzzcocks, The Ramones, The Raincoats, Postcard Records and the attitude that Creation Records had.

However the scene, for the want of a better word, has had a greater impact than at first realised with indie pop and shoegazing being two derivative genres that appeared as a result. It also contributed to the rise of indie dance especially where old punk and C86 fan Andrew Weatherall was involved remixing the likes of Primal Scream and My Bloody Valentine and creating another movement as a result.

The lack of diversity on the tape meant that it comes in for criticism when compared to it's predecessor C81. That point is somewhat unfair given that music outside the shambling guitar sound didn't have much impact on the NME buying readers at the time. Despite some great bands and tracks on C81, C86 had a much wider influence and is still felt today. Just listen to the likes of Belle & Sebastian, Sarandon, Aberfeldy and the majority of bands coming out of Sweden or the Philippines at the moment. Granted that in the influence stakes Orange Juice and Josef K have given inspiration to the likes of Franz Ferdinand (as well as bands on C86) but at the end of the day banding the term C81 is not going to bring as much recognition as it's successor. And as for C96 we will stop just there!

As previously mentioned this is not a re-release of the tape although tracks that were on it appear here - these include The Bodines classic Therese as well as Primal Screams Velocity Girl a track that will remain forever timeless. The compilation also sees tracks from bands that preceded and influenced C86 (TV Personalities, The Loft, Jesus & Mary Chain) although somewhat bizarrely none from Postcard Records, from bands who were never on the tape but have somehow become synonymous with it (Talulah Gosh, BMX Bandits, June Brides) and tracks from bands who came after many of the C86 bands had long splintered into oblivion (Darling Buds, East Village, Primitives etc).

The expectation was that some bands on C86 were to go and have commercial success. The Mighty Lemon Drops were the clearest example. Hailed by many as the saviours of pop they were dominant between 1985 and 1987 but it just didn't go to plan although they hung on until 1992. They signed to Chrysalis/Blue Guitar at the same time as The Shop Assistants who self imploded after their only album was released although they did re-appear gloriously for a while at the end of the decade. Commercial success did come for The Wedding Present, Primal Scream, The Primitives and The Darling Buds but for many their time had been and gone.

Many of the bands here were on C86 but with different tracks. The tracks here are much stronger than the original submissions and these include Age Of Chance and their industrial stomper Bible Of The Beats, The Wolfhounds Anti Midas Touch and The Soup Dragons Whole Wide World before the latter went all baggy on us.

There are some surprises too. The Fizzbombs appear on CD for the first time with the wonderful Sign On The Line and the original recording of If I Said from the Darling Buds debut 7" also pops up. The addition of these two tracks alone make this a worthwhile purchase as do tracks from bands who never got a look in such as Raw Herbs and Laugh.

This CD still doesn't clear up some myths due to some glaring omissions. The majority of the bands here could be tagged as jangle pop giving belief that C86 was all about twee. It wasn't but non-appearances by bands on the original tape such as Bogshed, Stump or A Witness and appearances by those who weren't such as Talulah Gosh and Sarah label bands like The Sea Urchins and The Hit Parade would suggest otherwise. Other notable omissions include the likes of The Rosehips and Bubblegum Splash whose inclusion would have described the amateurish feel that bands of the era had. These bands may have not been the best ever but their attitude, shambling take on indie pop and the diy fanzine culture that encapsulated them summarised the era better than most although the sleeve notes and some nicely written words by Bob Stanley almost manages to capture this.

Some of the politics also has seemed to have gone missing but this is clearly understandable twenty years on although the current administration is doing it's best to impersonate the mid 1980's Tory government. McCarthy who were followers of the Workers Revolutionary Party appear and reminds us of those despairing days that in the end contributed to many of the bands making music - well it was better than being on the dole a quote I recall from The Shop Assistants whose track Safety Net is the Teenage Kicks of the C86 generation.

Listening to this compilation, which captures the spirit if the era, makes me excited as when I first heard this music which has had a pretty big impact on my life. C86 and issues around it means it has it's detractors but twenty years on and I'm Not Scared To Get Happy once again.

Essential stuff - buy!

10 Responses to “CD86 - Some Thoughts & A Review”

  1. # Blogger martijn

    Did you get to read the C86-piece in The Guardian?  

  2. # Blogger Jem

    i think the probable reason why a witness, stump, the mackenzies et al don't make the tape is perhaps because bob stanley who compiled it thinks they "were genuinely dire". the sleevenotes for cd86 and his article in the Times last week are virtually the same apart from that sentence. that said big flame made it.  

  3. # Blogger Tom

    Yes thanks Martijn. I'm getting a page together with all what I can find on C86, the gigs and the CD so they are all collated in the one place.

    Hope you are enjoying living in the UK and that you are taking advantage of some fine real ales and cider! Devons a good part of the country for that :o)  

  4. # Blogger larryhag

    "Most musical movements produce a stand-out musician, but there wasn't one with C86. Their records were badly produced, the singers were usually out of tune - but that was the appeal: it sounded human. Now music sounds sanitised. Bands like the Arctic Monkeys are great, but their records are so well-produced and slick."
    (from the above mentioned interview with Nicky Wire in The Guardian)


    Martijn, Thanks for the link to the article. Years ago I really liked MSP and especially "Motorcycle Emptiness" that I still regard as a brilliant song. Furthermore, I stopped listening to them years back when I thought that their sound turned to: "well-produced and slick".  

  5. # Blogger larryhag

    "Most musical movements produce a stand-out musician, but there wasn't one with C86." (ibid)

    Any comments on this sentence?  

  6. # Blogger lostmusic

    Just gone my grubby paws on CD86. I think it's a great compilation. Sure there are bands I'd like to featured that weren't - I actually LIKE Stump!

    As for great musicians stemming from a scene? I dunno. Define a great musician? William Reid is probably my favourite musician of all time. Technically - I'd imagine he's no more than average. It's ideas that count over technique. And C86 (although I don't like the term) was simply music being made as I was coming of age. Some of it was shit. Some of it was timeless. Most of it deserves to be remembered somehow.  

  7. # Blogger larryhag

    "Technically - I'd imagine he's no more than average. It's ideas that count over technique."

    i couldnĀ“t agree more. ideas are what really counts.  

  8. # Blogger RodneyK

    A decent compilation all told but I'm sure most of us would query some of the songs chosen and some of the bands included and excluded (Revolving Paint Dream present but Biff Bang Pow not!?). It probably gets more right than wrong though.

    Most irritating for me is them spelling 'Talulah Gosh' wrong and mixing up the PWEI song title. If this was your fault Bob, shame on you!  

  9. # Anonymous Anonymous

    Hmmm! So Nicky Wire reckons there was no "standout musician" in C86?. Well firstly, (& I have a soft spot for some Manic's stuff btw!)this is coming a bassist that just about manages to hold down the root note of what his guitarist is playing, yet feels fit to comment on the "musicianship" of C86. (& anyway surely this is an irrelevant point in what was the "anyone can do it" diy spirit of C86)!

    I have heard Nicky Wire's recent "solo album". It sounds like a 16 year old Guns & Roses fan's myspace page! McCarthy's Tim Gane has made many excellent, innovative world class recordings with Stereolab. I would love to see Mr Wire hold his own in a room with Stump's Kev Hopper (bass)& Chris Salmon (gtr), absolutely musicians of the highest order, Beefheart stud-ees who could play like you wouldn't believe!!

    My beloved Pistols & Clash aren't exactly revered for the musicianship (well, Topper aside!), so my response is that I see no valid point to Nicky Wire's argument! Bottom line, there were some damn fine records that came out of C86 (& undoubtably a few dodgy ones)... who cares that the movement didn't produce a Knopfler??! Not me! Listen to "Farmer John" by "The Premiers" on Lenny Kaye's original Nuggets comp: - one of the best records ever made! None of those guys ended up in Steely Dan!!  

  10. # Blogger necro muncher

    I know C86c and I love the Age of Chance's "From Now On, This Will Be Your God".

    I think this music is the most indie thing to have been existing during their time.

    Harmony In My Ears  

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